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Later this week, an exhibition of 48 of Andy Warhol<\/strong>‘s 102 shadow paintings will open to the public on the ground floor of Calvin Klein<\/strong>‘s 39th Street headquarters in New York. Prior to the installation, Calvin Klein’s creative director, Raf Simons<\/strong>, sat down with The New York Times<\/strong> for an in-depth interview.<\/p>\n

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The New York Times \/ Clement Pascal<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

During the conversation, Simons talked about his appreciation for art, how he has used Warhol’s work at Calvin Klein, as well as his profession and those who have an opinion of him.<\/p>\n

Here are the headlines that the Belgian has provided, although if you prefer you can read the interview in its entirety through The New York Times<\/strong><\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n

On merging Andy Warhol and Calvin Klein:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cI liked the idea of connecting an American major brand to an American major artist, whose body of work spoke about things very relevant to Calvin Klein. I knew Calvin had links with artists, but the names that always came up were Donald Judd, Dan Flavin \u2014 minimalists, because he was a minimalist. Andy Warhol stood in the middle of the contemporary environment. In his approach, his vision, his obsession with superstars and famous people, his sense of commercial product, he was very democratic. Calvin is very democratic.\u201d<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

On wanting to own Warhols:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

\u201c\u2026the disaster work \u2014 any car crash or disaster or electric chair. I just think they are so \u2026 it\u2019s difficult to explain. When you say you adore that body of work, it seems like you are someone who adores violence and horror. With Warhol, I am more attracted to the work that doesn\u2019t deal with famous people, because my world is already dealing so much with famous people.\u201d<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

\u201cGenerally people don\u2019t like to live with complicated subject matter. But I have to feel the artwork stands for something that is important to me. I don\u2019t like the idea that it has to fit my environment at all. I think that\u2019s why I started looking at art and reading about it and embracing it \u2014 because it takes me away from my own work.\u201d<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

On his affinity for art:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cOf the top three or five things that are important to me, outside of family and love, art is No. 1. It\u2019s way more important than fashion. Sometimes I think it would be very attractive to be able to bring ideas out and not have to think about them in relation to a system or structure or commerce.\u201d<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

\u201cI think about it often. I keep thinking of things I would like to do that are not fashion. Making movies, making art \u2014 the practice of making something. In fashion, the actual practice of being a designer has changed so much.\u201d<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

On being labeled a fashion designer:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cIt\u2019s always on my mind. Is this what you do? In a way I don\u2019t think I\u2019m a fashion designer. I used to be so upset when people called me that. Now it doesn\u2019t matter so much.\u201d<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

On using Warhol\u2019s artwork for Calvin Klein:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cI was thinking who could be a symbol for the body of work I\u2019m trying to shape at Calvin Klein? So I thought I might now and then, out of Warhol\u2019s body of work, take people and reintroduce them to the audience as heroes of mine. Whether they are famous or not I don\u2019t care so much, and for what reason I also don\u2019t care.\u201d<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

\u201cDennis Hopper was an incredible representation of the American cowboy. Sandra is someone I admire as a person, and I like the connection with Ingrid and Andy and Interview. Stephen Sprouse was one of the few American designers who had a kind of approach I link more to Europe and the people who inspired me, because they were fascinated by youth and generational dialogues, like Gaultier, Helmut Lang.\u201d<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

On using art in fashion:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cIf there\u2019s a link between fashion and art, the assumption is always it\u2019s the designer who wants to exploit it for commerce. Not the artist who is exploiting the designer.\u201d<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

On reactions to his work:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cI used to be very fragile about how people would react to my work, but I have become more and more at peace with the idea that bad reactions can also be good, because at least it\u2019s a dialogue. But in that way I have to split up my reactions to it, and the reactions of the companies I work for, because a lot of companies seem most interested in the reactions of millions of people that I hardly know who they are. And everything has to work on a tiny screen, instantly. It\u2019s not that difficult to make something that looks good on a tiny screen, and then in reality turns out to be a disaster on a person.\u201d<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

On the nature of fashion:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cThe nature of fashion has changed. In Antwerp, I have more time to be quiet and to draw. Here, there\u2019s no time to write things down. Everything is organized and in the agenda. It\u2019s all talking. That\u2019s the scale and intensity of the work. At Dior, I had the same sense of running against the clock, the fire at my heels.\u201d<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

On continuing to join large fashion houses:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cIt\u2019s my choice, my responsibility. Clearly, I am attracted to it. I imagine there are people who think I was selling out by coming here, but it\u2019s not such a problem for me. Not that I don\u2019t care. I care a lot. But I don\u2019t care so much about the fact people have an opinion. I actually admire people who have an opinion, even if it\u2019s against me. The problem now in fashion is everything gets judged immediately.\u201d<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

–<\/p>\n

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